Phew...

Took a while going through the posts unleashed by Prashant Baveja. Congratulations Prashant! You seem to have a solution for all the problems, I stand impressed.....

But how exactly do you think your suggestions are practical? Are ideas the only seed towards accomplishing something? I know its far too easy to look around where you are...and compare the two parallel worlds. But IMHO, it is a wrong thing to do. The very premise of arguments itself is such a world apart, that it makes no sense to apply lessons of the west to the east. The only way to learn is ourselves, and I think we are doing a pretty good job of it. Inspite of all the poverty around us, all the corruption, all the chaos of incompetent government offices and officials, things do happen. We continue to march forward and claim the 4th spot in the world. The same commonwealth which was much ill-publicized opened to a grand spectacle. My friend Prashant, here is a message for scores like you, who take some sadistic pleasure in taking a dig at your own country and your own alma-mater:


Yes, India has poverty. Yes, we spent a lot on Commonwealth Games. Yes, Corruption is out there. But India is on the move. Growing faster than most of the "once" developed world. We are the 4th largest economy despite low per capita income (not on PPP basis). UK (the commonwealth head state) especially gets more investment from India than vice versa (that when they have been the biggest thugs and mass murderers in not so distant history). Events like Commonwealth Games 2010 bring about investments in infrastructure and benefits for many years beyond the games.


As an Indian I am proud of the fact that for a change, the world is worried, jealous and awed by the sheer demonstration of YES WE CAN by Indians. My way of dealing with it: We ignore you and move forward. Jai Ho.


And then, can you please give up on the fact that Hon'ble V.C is reading this, or has any role whatsoever behind anything published here. When I hardly find time to respond to your trilogy, how on earth can I imagine PBS Sir to even know that you exist anymore! I'm an alumni just like you, and yes there has been voluntary participation by many of the current students and alumni's who sent us information (information about you being an example). The threat to you is from your Karma's, not from anybody else.

I can't find time to reply to all the madness you unleashed, majority of which I reject as mere speculation and suggestions. There is no proof or evidence behind anything you said, but they do make some interesting arguments. I will only have time to cover a few:

• Innovation/Ramblings about US Universities: We don't disagree with you on this, they do have some of the best innovations happening out there. The research programs are well-funded, well organized, and they deliver. But then, everything has a humble beginning, we are making ours. Rather than being proud of what we have achieved on our own (read: zero external funding, zero external consultancy and academicians, well you know them!), you want to compare it with the west? I, for one, would not do that. I would encourage these students to better on what they have achieved and move forward. After all, it takes one Ashutosh Saxena to do it @ Cornell my friend (and one Prashant Baveja to do it @ Rochester!). We have done this: http://indiaedunews.net/Engineering/DTU_students_create_Robotic_Shera_for_CW_Games_12691/ and we should be PROUD of it. A small step towards the end, is surely better off than not starting at all! Let's give ourselves some time...after all, what logic can dictate comparison of a University established in 1865 with a University established in 2010?!
• Bio-Diesel: While I don't have much of this, I do know that the value of the project lies in the seed it uses. True bio-diesel is not a new concept, but the breakthrough here is to be able to make it out of Jatropa seeds and the form-factor of the reactor. Sadly, the project is led by some very incompetent people like NK, but then it is an important research on its own in the context of India. I also understand that not much has been done to take the project forward, but this responsibility should/must lie with the lead researcher, not PBS. He provided all he could to take the project forward.
• Toy Cars: Thank you for appreciating the honest efforts of the students, isn't it good enough that amongst the rankings you posted on your blog, DTU is the only Asian University mentioned? At least we are doing things, and we must laud the efforts, rather than calling them toy cars. One of these students shall one day do great stuff @ Cornell and MIT. We at least were able to provide an initiative as an Institute, we provided an opportunity and for this alone, the Administration along with the faculty members involved should be praised and respected.

Prashant, only if more people could have ideas and proposals like you. But our faculty (and each one of them, you know, I know) just do not have the motivation and spirit to do something good. There are exceptions like RKS (with whom you have been closely associated), but clearly there is need for more like him. There is a pressing need for our faculty to indulge, participate and set examples in the field of Academics (and not stand with banners or instigate innocent students).

An institute is not a one man show, but sadly DTU has to be run that way. Let us hope more people get inspired and work together to take it to greater heights. The top most agenda on the minds of our faculty is attacking an individual who is trying to do something good. You can have your views, (and if expressed in a respectable and dignified manner are fully acceptable), the current fact is: DCE has moved on, moved on to DTU, towards autonomy, towards greater opportunities. Me and you see it in opposite ways, you being pessimistic and negative about it, and me optimistic. I don't see any fears cited during the protest coming true (Placements/Ranking etc), which is a sigh of relief. 

There will be rumors, and things passed around. As with anything else in India, we will stumble and overcome. Have a good day.

Note: 

- IITB Incubator: I looked at the IITB Incubator website, I am CONFIDENT we will be better off in 10 years time. 

- Democracy: This is democracy, and all views are respected. But an abuse is an abuse is an abuse, Period. And abuse is an offence, and has no place in any democracy.

- Lathi Charge: If the students go on their own and try to gatecrash into 10 Janpath, when a sensitive convention is going on, what do you expect Delhi Police to do? There Police morons know only one way, LATHI. If  PBS had so much control, he would prevent the students from reaching there in the first place. On the same facebook where you revel, there were (now deleted) posts that mentioned the instigation that was done by the student leaders. And anyways, down with Delhi Police...I join you in it. It was a yet another shameful demonstration of the abuse police does everyday. FYI, a strong protest was registered with the Delhi Police for this action by DTU Administration and the DTU Admin was pivotal in getting the student leaders out of the jail (as reported in media).

- You may find this interesting too: http://aglasem.com/updates/?p=2529. Sadly, all the good advice you gave on your blog, is being given right inside the campus now ;) But good job none the less, I'm sure it helps people out there.

Enough for the day.

 

When a Dog gets mad....

You don't bite him, you shoot him.

Been busy out here, was out on a business trip. There isn't much to reply to mindless abuses and wild accusations, but Prashant has proved exactly the point we have been making: He is ABUSIVE, it is for everyone to see. Abuse is where it started, and there was/is no reason for us to go down to his level. We really hope someone from his current or past Administration takes note of the happenings and make him succeed on the Self-Destruct path he has chosen. Still Mr. Prashant Bhagat, you shall be answered.

Allegations, hate mongering, fear psychosis, abuse....this was the summary of the last campaign, spearheaded by gentlemen like Mr Baraiya, Mr Shekhar and Mr Prashant. I am so sure a lot more would have been achieved through peaceful means, but understand this gentlemen: It was never an Anti-DTU campaign, it was an Anti-PBS campaign all along, hatched by masters in our own fold and supported by elements in Delhi University.

Jobless people who are in their own Naraka, pray for others to join them. I assure you Nitin Baraiya, if not PBS, PB (Prashant Baveja/Bhagat) will join you soon! And not because we threaten (or someone will do something), but because to reach where you are (your jobless Naraka) there are certain karmic requirements. You fulfilled them to the fullest, and the fun is just about to begin. It is so clear that you are looking at another defeat at the Hon'ble High Court, your basis for the petition is as absurd and falsified as the campaign you spearheaded recently. Unfortunately, our legal system is such that such petitions have to be heard. The statistics will yet again expose the myths. Please accept our heartfelt sympathy in advance!

For a while, we deviated from our purpose of this blog, primary distraction being Mr Prashant Bhagat. There shall be one more post devoted to that loser, he has already said all he had. We really hope he slept well after his trilogy (lmao)....After the next post, you will be ignored Mr Prashant Bhagat.

We reply....to Mr Prashant "Bewajah"

This is beginning to look like mudslinging, it could be better. But you started it, and we will play along. Your latest post lacks content, looks like you did not have much answers. But whatever you could manage, let's talk about that.

I do not support or condone anything.. India unfortunately happens to be the land of extremes. The situations that can be resolved by dialog are instead solved by media. So while a Mr paintal goes ahead and announces to the media that semester system will be imposed without resolving it with the teachers first, the teachers take it to the streets. sorry state oif affairs of my homeland, which is why I choose to leave, never to come back..


PLEASE DON'T, we are much better off without you. People like you can only make false claims, generate hype and do nothing else. We are happy you finally got our point though...and you agree that shouting slogans, organizing strikes, abusing people on the road is not the way of the educated. The debate about "India" (if it exists anymore) is far more complex for me and you to undertake. We all talk about the system being wrong, the fundamental question is: Who makes the system? We are a country ruled by coalition governments for the last 2 decades, we are the nation where caste and region reign supreme over anything national. How can you put the blame of CWG on Govt alone? If taking kickbacks from government contracts is corruption, earning Rs 50 Lakh for 5 second slot on News Network is even worse! Who created the hysteria around CWG? Who benefited? Who gained? The government - Surely not, the people - definitely not, the democracy - obviously not, the bank balance of the media circus - OH YEAH! This is not a debate on CWG or National Pride, the point I am trying to drive is there can be wrong in anything and everything, you just have to choose to stand on one side. In between all this, the section of the society that is expected to behave is the Academia, and that was the whole point. The Academicians don't look good shouting slogans, they don't look good setting such examples for generations of students....

We are a land of extremes as you said, how did it happen? Do we, or the world understand the complex fabric that India is made up of? Can you ever imagine a Bihar or a U.P fixed? Can you ever have Brahmin's welcomed in Tamil Nadu again? We are a country still coming out from centuries of slavery and oppression. The wrongs have been done my friend, and no amount of circus can get this under control. This will have to be a generational evolution. How fair is it to say we aren't good enough? What was the state of affairs in your adopted home after 60 years of Independence? When west, with clear polarity in terms of Religion took long before it could stand strong, it's laughable to expect India to achieve it all in 60 years.

And that is where the term, often coined by PBS Sir, and misquoted by you comes in - World Class University. It is a vision, not yet a reality. It is an initiative, not yet a result. But anything world class, is impossible without its people. That is why DTU suffered initially, that is why India suffers. Can we stop crying foul and work together to resolve the matters? Can we ever shout slogans, and yet applaud our achievements? Transformation is exactly that, letting go of the present reality and moving on to the future. Knuckleheads like you will perish and be left behind, DCE has already moved on to new highs!

When you talk about brand DCE, do you have the slightest idea of how Kashmere Gate was like? You would not even realize amidst the strikes and mass bunks, when your engineering got over. DCE was just well placed, having the distinction of being the only Govt run Engineering College of Delhi, and for this reason attracted the best of minds. The list of illustrious alumni's of DCE is something to be proud of, but the true reason of success for any individual is not his alma-mater, but his grey matter! Know the history, the transformation started with the arrival of PBS, who fought the system hard to get things right. He dared to walk the talk, and got the glorious days of DCE back. He introduced CEE, be brought the academic schedule on track, he made all the student chapters, he fostered relations with the Industry, he remade the lost DCE brand. This is an Undeniable truth; if not for him...DCE would not even have existed anymore for retards like you.

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Yes, they were baseless. Can you deny what we posted? You DIDN'T allege a Moral Responsibility on PBS, you alleged him of organizing this crime! And that is exactly where it is a culpable crime. You can read your own words, can't you? Let me refresh your memory again.

"we can help them by being united behind who did this. I want all the PBS chamchas in this community to go and report to him tomorrow morning in his AC office that all true DCEites know that he was the one who did this."

"oh no no mistake not pabbu is doing this. 

he is capable and has the resources."

"no student can beat another so 

mercilessly. I have witnessed some fights in my time and rest 

assured no one beat their worst enemies this brutally. This

learly was done by heartless merciless SOBs under orders 

from an even worse SOB"

Are you ashamed yet? You think you can lie to the whole world by now saying:

he has no right to stand idle and do nothing about something like this.. and i did not mean to instigate nor was it my intention but my abuses were directed at him for he was responsible for all these occurrences.. period!! if something like this happens again, he is responsible period!!

These two, coming from the mouth (or fingers, or fingers in mouth) of his excellency Prashant Baweja, are NOT same. YES YOU INSTIGATED, YES YOU LIED, YES YOU ABUSED, YES, YES, YES. PERIOD! You and the Entire gang of Ravi Shekhar and Co. played to the selfish tunes of select faculty members and DU Officials. (Though I seriously believe you got yourself involved in this because you are a Schmuck!, हिंदी में कहें तो: "बेगानी शादी में, अब्दुल्लाह दीवाना!"). 

And you didn't use SOB once my friend, you used it all along. You stand on no moral grounds Mr Baweja, you are a filthy, abusive, arsewipe, nothing else.

I will not even react on your arguments about placements and your suggestion that whatever we are witnessing in DTU is because it is Ex-DCE. Anyways, WE ARE Ex-DCE, and the University shall always be proud of that legacy. You are no Oracle to predict what will happen, time will tell and I believe you will be eating your words. As far as the LM initiative is concerned, there is Direct Funding for the student projects by them, get your facts right.

Who wants to ever visit the Facebook profile of a jerk like you. You are famous in the www now through this blog Mr Prashant Baveja (as you realize already), and people come here looking for you. STFU, and realize the suicidal mission you are on. You think you will tag your posts as PBS (lol) and ever accomplish anything!? LMAO....He ain't going to apply for Post Doc, you gonna do that soon mate.

You last comments about CWG and your great comparison has already been covered earlier, and I would not blink an eye if you had put Moral responsibility on the VC. The fact that you put criminal allegations on the man, is why this whole thing started. I say again, this medium does not target you, It targets your lies and abuses. You stand exposed Mr Prashant Baveja.....for everyone to see.

(We will talk about Bio-Diesel and the Toy Cars in the next post...Enough for the day)!