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Below are the links in this blog which expose the false propaganda:

- Student Agitation: Myth vs Facts Click Here

- False propaganda against PBS: Click here

- Answers to comments (Send us more! we will answer...Don;t shout senseless slogans, ask sensible questions!): Click Here

Thank you!

Dear friends,

Thank you for your emails of support. I am glad we have been able to reach out and expose the lies. I am for conversion of DTU to DCE, but I will not let myself be used to execute evil designs against my Alma Mater.

We attended classes, you too go ahead and defy these GOONDAS. Just one, one official police case against them and they will be taken care of....I think it was mistake of Administration to have given them so many opportunities.

Please Goonda Shekhar and Goonda Baraiya....lay your hands on me, and I swear to god you will land up in JAIL. You are trapped in your lies now...Stop misguiding the juniors...More infrastructure has been committed, all "Genuine" issues addressed, SheilaJi has given all clarification....WHAT MORE? Or are you being told by your Aaka's to continue agitation till the court hearing on 15 April??

Be careful people, they are playing another game with us now....by "temporarily" calling off the agitation. Apni life set karenge, exams denge, aur humein barbaad karenge. THIS IS THE TRUTH OF THESE STUDENT LEADERS. Just because of your selfish motives, you fooled us all? You have already made enough trouble...now please pass out and get the hell out of here!!! We are here to study, and most of us don't score below 60 grades like you all! PLEASE LEAVE US ALONE. RS and NB were sold out...THEY MADE THEIR MONEY!

Another question for you: Can you make public: WHO FUNDED THIS AGITATION? Can you openly tell the names of Faculties supporting you?

They were LIARS, now they are GOONS!

See Below from your leader's blog:

We keep to our business, and we hope you do to yours. If you have the strength to stand on the opposite side of our welfare, prepare well. We will find who thinks ill of us, and We will hunt him down till the last drop of existence bleeds from him. We have nothing to lose, and today We feel more dangerous than a trapped rattle

They are threatening us now! This is the true color...and do you understand now why we had RAF??? To prevent us from such goons! DEFY THEM FOLKS....CLASSES ARE STARTING FROM TOMORROW....LET's COME BACK. Give an official report of such threats, Administration will take action!!! Don't support Goonda's....Support yourself.

Answers to your Comments

UPDATES:

but above all you are not representing administration. how can one trust your posts?

Well, just like I trusted my leaders once. The difference is: Nothing in this blog is a Propaganda...Everything here is VERIFIABLE. These are all FACTS, rather than a populist, abusive campaign. This is no "Emotional Atyachar"....We are for logic and reason.

your so called official channels were not responsive
We have another chance now, this is "the" chance. Administration is willing to listen. All the things like if DTU can't be DCE again, we can make sure that it receives the word that it was DCE. We can tell the Administration to embark on a re-branding campaign. I am sure they want to do it.

why steps like cutting wifi in student's hostel? coming to hostel and making them sign paper that they have to give mid sem or otherwise?

I felt bad too...seriously. But then, who started it? We are the ones who did not do a peaceful negotiation, did not address our concerns by official channels, leaders spread lies and fear using facebook...etc. It was sad, Administration could have been lenient. After all this, I am sure Administration will be softer for sure...in fact a lot softer. As per our knowledge, Faculty has also received a STRICT WARNING from Govt. of Delhi against indulging in anti-establishment practices.

r u one of those guys who give midsems? LOL :)
I wish I was! I stood all along except the "MEGA EVENT"...I could really see the campaign shifting from "Save DCE" to "anti-PBS". That's what brought us together, leaders were/are executing a different design all along....I am glad to say we have increased from 5 to 150+ now...face the FACTS and you will see the truth. All the more reason we can be hyperactive in our replies!!

sometimes u say "honorable p b sharma sir"...

Sorry, slip of tongue! but we have never addressed him as what you mention. Anyways, just to tease you, we will use it now! The more we investigate, more we know "Honorable P B Sharma Sir" has done a great job as the head of this institution. He is better than the Goldar's and the Sachdeva's we have seen!

cant you guys at least tried to retain brand name "DCE"
I wish I could...but I am just a student..I wanted Brand DCE too..But I do know that all official communication of DTU says clearly: (formerly Delhi College of Engineering)....

isn't one man power rule bad?
It can be both, I agree he has been around too long. But then, there must be reasons right? Look at DCE (1990) and look at our sprawling campus today. I have spoken to many alumni, He is told to be the MOST STUDENT FRIENDLY Principal. That is yet another reason Faculty hates him....But you can't question his heart and efforts he puts for the Institute.

Donated money for what?
Do you really think there is No Cost to planning an agitation?? Who funded this agitation...I really want an answer from our leaders.

and why MBA in an engineering college whose engineering is in very bad state ?
Why not? We are not a college anymore, we are a University....and it is so much a standard to see Business Studies and Engineering together... (IITD, IITB, IISc). I know we are not there, but we are trying! Things can, and will improve.

U mean a world class university as DU is playing bad political games?

I should have been specific, certain elements in DU. There is a lot of support from them, from some quarters....WHY? I had a person approach me during the Jantar Mantar protest who said: "Involve DU More" and sped away....several students reported this.

Anonymous: We are not deleting comments, We are deleting ABUSE. Anything healthy, shall be answered. I am also deleting your "d**kh**e!" comment...in a civilized society, this kind of language is UNACCEPTABLE.

Anonymous1: He was posted directly as HoD? LOOOOOL.... The FACT is: He was never HoD in IIT Delhi, He joined as a Sr. Lecturer 1979, promoted to Asst Professor in 1984, and Full Professor in 1988. ANYONE CAN CROSS-CHECK THESE "FACTS".

PBFK:
- Why RAF? It was for the safety of all of us, particularly those who were not participating in the agitation. If tempers boil (which is so so common in Protests), law enforcement authorities need to be there to control situation. Remember we had Police every time we went out to protest?

- why student expulsions? What would happen in your school if you stood outside your class and started shouting slogans? Started gathering people to do a protest? Okay, this is no school but it was a behavior against the interest of your Institute still. WHY DID THE STUDENT LEADERS NOT GIVE THEIR DEMANDS PEACEFULLY FIRST? WHY NO MEMORANDUM OR NOTICE WAS SERVED TO THE AUTHORITIES FOR THIS CAUSE? WHY THERE HAS BEEN NO SINGLE DEMAND OR COMMUNICATION FROM STUDENTS BEFORE THIS AGITATION?

- why faculty suspensions? They are really lucky to walk away with suspensions really. In a government system, any anti-establishment behavior can result even in a criminal case! And they did more serious stuff, more than instigating us, they donated money. Do you understand the seriousness of this behavior? Both the student and faculty expulsions were disciplinary actions exercised by the authorities, and they have complete case for it...The proof is ALL OVER of faculty involvement.

All those who sent their words to us...GROW UP! It is easy to abuse someone being "Anonymous"...and it is clear that you had nothing to say in counter argument! I am not here because PBS is my favorite! I am here because I want all my friends to know the FACTS. Somehow you like to hit below the belt...but thats fine, it's the evolutionary stage of life you are in.

Responding to a comment that PBS did not take any classes: He was consistently the top rated teacher at IIT Delhi (and no less!) for all the years he worked there. Why do you guys think there is conspiracy behind everything?? Will you question the working of IIT's as well now? It is purely merit that matters in institutes like IIT and DTU (formerly Delhi College of Engineering).

Finally, act responsibly. Stop abusing and stop behaving like B.A (History) students. We are not DU...we are DTU and proud of it.

Note: I am really grateful to all faculty members for providing information about PBS. If only you could bring your admiration of PBS in open, we the students will know the evil designs behind this agitation. For the agitating faculty members (very few), better start teaching now! We are not here for Politics, we are here for an Engineering career....don't misguide us.

Another set of LIES @ savedce.in, we answer!

This is a response to the post titled "WHY PROF: P.B.SHARMA SHOULD BE REMOVED". Some of the stuff is entirely laughable! But yeah, since we are now "TRAITORS" as you call us, we will answer some here....

1) History of 21 fraud cases in RGTU (Bhopal) from where he had to resign. How can a person, involved in so many controversial cases be appointed as Vice Chancellor!! .

He was acquitted on all charges against him. This blog has filed an RTI to obtain a copy of the report. He stayed for months after that and then resigned to join DCE BECAUSE THE LIEN WAS EXPIRING! Further extension could not be granted by Govt of Delhi.

2) No committee was set up for his “appointment” as Vice Chancellor.

This is a decision of Govt. of Delhi, and it is very logical for Govt to choose someone who has been leading the Institute from strength to strength for the last 2 decades.

3) The conversion from DCE to DTU was done at the time of his retirement which indicates his motive for extension.

You really believe one man can convert DCE to DTU?! The proposal has been pending for years, with the focus on Education by the Central Govt (Yashpal Committee, Right to Education etc.) this was perhaps thought to be the best time. An IIT Professor, Director of one of the top Engineering Institute for 2 decades, 2 times Vice Chancellor, Internationally recognized and applauded academician, Fellow of most prestigious International Bodies....you think he needs more? All he perhaps wanted was to ensure a great chapter in the era of this Institute he has resurrected from near collapse.

BTW, There is no thing such as "extension"....he has been "re-appointed" after having already resigned from his position as Director.

4) The conversion from DCE to DTU was done during the holidays when hardly any students were present in college. He has stated that this conversion is supported by the students and faculty. The fact that above 95% of the students are protesting this conversion for the past 2 weeks at Jantar Mantar , India Gate and Vidhan Sabha clearly proves the lies he has been spreading. Let us not forget that 98% of the students boycotted the Mid Semester Exams.

It is the decision of Govt of Delhi. They decided and did it....Should they have come looking for our academic calendar?! And why does it take so long for this agitation to start? Why the gap of months for all this to start? It's all a big conspiracy, with involvement of few malicious faculty members and definite outside patronage. After all, DTU is buzzing with great activities...Someone is worried!!!

5) His trump card is to threaten the student’s degree. Since he is the “Vice Chancellor” people usually buckle under pressure.

And student's trump card is to execute the designs of vested interests? and how: In spite of repeated opportunities, offer no demands? Demonstrate and shout abusive slogans? Make personal remarks on the head of your institution? Gang up and misguide the first year students? CM has made it clear: A University approved by law and institutionalized as an Act is IRREVERSIBLE. Even if you get your VC by your evil designs, you will NEVER get downgrading of a Govt Approved University...NEVER.

6) He has blamed UPSC for delay in the faculty recruitment process causing severe faculty shortage. It has been 8 months since the conversion and 4 new courses have been introduced. When asked if there had been any recruitment of faculty to meet the requirement he answered that the existing faculty was sufficient. !. How can there be a ‘severe faculty shortage’ when they can accommodate new intakes !! This is a clear case of exploitation of one’s position.

This is the position of the Government, he is the mouthpiece. Do you know that for the FIRST TIME, there have been application received from all over the world for Academic Positions at DTU? Faculty expansion is a process, you don't go a Supermart and buy professors. But at least, IT CAN BE DONE NOW.

8) There was a CBI enquiry during the time of the last CM. There have been no results of the enquiry and has not yet been formally closed.

Is there any basis to it? Anything that can please be produced to support this? If at all, until there is a judgement on this, it remains an allegation....nothing else.

9) He has been giving fake statistics of his individual publications.

A throughout Gold Medalist (BE, ME and PhD), the very few to be a chosen as a Rolls Royce consultant, the man behind numerous DRDO projects, fellow of prestigious Professional Bodies....He is way up there folks...WAKE UP! And like some of our esteemed faculties, the degrees are not from Punjab or Agra University, they are awarded by UNIVERSITY OF BIRMINGHAM (U.K), one of the top-most schools in Mechanical Engineering in the world.

10) He humiliates the students by checking their sms. He has no right to interfere in the personal matters of the students.

And Students have the rights to send him humiliating sms's? Students have the right to spread rumor and lies by sms?! He still decided not to involve the police to investigate the origin of rumor sms's and especially the ones received on his mobile. Are you aware that it is a criminal offence to send humiliating and threatening sms's?

11) The national Holi festival was banned in the campus this year. The notice stated that Holi was banned in the entire city of Delhi. It warned the students “not to take their careers in their hands”!!!

t....and you did not play Holi? It was the same announcement given by all universities across India!!

12) The drivers have apparently gotten so fearless that they physically assault the students. Apparently they have direct contact with the VC.
You have direct contact too, try to reach him! Raise this to him, and complain if you see no action...

16) He has appointed a Public Relations officer in the university. Its not a corporate house, its a university!!

All world class universities operate partially as a Corporate House...Have you ever seen one!? Check out any Top 10 University, they even have a Marketing Department... oh no, they want you to go back to a medieval university like DU right? Duh!

18) Here is a boomer!! He gave admission to his son in DCE in the Masters Programme on sponsorship quota. The rules demand atleast a year of experience. His son had none. Prof: D.Roy.Choudhary questioned this move and was replaced by Prof: Ashok De immediately and YES! His son did get that degree!!!

Cheap allegation, but Bad Ball! His son was admitted when he was away in Bhopal!...And you know what? His son was humiliated, suspended and his admission cancelled by the very same faculty that keeps adding fuel to the current agitation. With all the hostility around him, his son WON the court case against DU and then DCE and finished in the TOP 5 Students of the batch. But yeah, 2 + 2 = 5...

22) Foreign delegations from Universities who seek collaboration are met with complete indifference and they leave the college completely humiliated.

What? What? What!?...here you go: http://dqindia.ciol.com/content/top_stories/2009/109122216.asp
Interestingly, we are 12th rank still..! Excerpts: "a tie-up with School of Business and Engineering Vaud (Heigh-VD), Switzerland...", "..DelTech entered an MoU with a network of seven French engineering institutions, The Groupe Des Ecoles Des Mines (GEM).."

Seriously....Wake up please my friends...we are NOT DU Students, we are DCE'ites....who worked really hard to be here.

Student Leaders are lying!!!

Here are some Myths vs Facts (ref:http://unitedfordce.blogspot.com/2010/03/save-dce.html). Be logical! Are we fighting for DTU or are we made to fight for it by certain elements who just want PBS out?! I am a proud DCE'ite who wants my college back too....but FACTS ARE FACTS.

MYTH: No permission from the DU to convert a Central Govt Institute into a State University.
FACT: DCE was always a State Govt Institute "affiliated" to DU. There is no permission required by law to seek consent of a affiliating University.

MYTH: a DCE degree which had a value, now sold to local polytechnic institutes under DTU!!!!
FACT: DTU is a non-affiliating University. It cannot give affiliation to outside institutes. THERE IS NO AFFILIATION PLANNED NOR APPROVED.

MYTH: CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION ...
FACT: Not a single financial irregularity has been reported/found in the last 20 years!! It's a government institute where independent audit is done every year! Just writing in CAPITAL does not make any case.

MYTH: BRAND DCE gone!!!! DTU blacklisted from all PSUs and many top notch companies!!!!!
FACT: Every single official document of DTU clearly mentions (formerly Delhi College of Engineering). This was added inspite of pressure to not have it there. It is there precisely to preserve the brand name. There is no official proof for blacklisting! It is all a hearsay spread by the Student leaders....Soon letters of support from companies will be published by PSU's!

MYTH: The man behind this move is HE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED who has been granted an extension on his retirement.
FACT: We name him, Prof. P B Sharma, the man who made DCE what it is now through his selfless service of 20 years. Right from introducing a world class entrance exam (CEE) to moving the campus from Kashmere Gate to Present, promoting professional student chapters, funding research and innovation...this man has devoted his life to make DCE a world class institute.

MYTH: 21!!!! TWENTY ONE cases of frauds against the man – who will not make his publications PUBLIC
FACT: Not cases, allegations. All of them were proven false....you people love RTI's right? Go and file an RTI seeking the result of inquiry committee for RGTU (M.P). NOTHING WAS PROVEN AND HE WAS ACQUITTED OF ALL CHARGES.

MYTH: P B Sharma is political and support Education Mafia.
FACT: P B Sharma got into controversy in Bhopal only for this: OPPOSING AND NOT BUDGING TO EDUCATION MAFIA! We are here for facts, and the fact is that because of his efforts M.P institutes saw policies implemented which prevented private colleges from taking money for admission, a Common Admission System was implemented by Prof Sharma which led to the entire controversy. THE VICTORY IS: THE SYSTEM IS STILL IN PLACE AND FINALLY LAW CAUGHT UP WITH THE MAFIA AND THEY HAVE BEEN DISMANTLED AND NEUTRALIZED.